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Re: Moebius Skipjack

Postby Tom Dougherty » Fri Nov 16, 2012 1:56 pm

I have the 2013 Revell catalog, and there is no mention of a 1/72 Skipjack in it. Where did you see this information?
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Re: Moebius Skipjack

Postby salmon » Fri Nov 16, 2012 2:17 pm

I cannot find any info on the Revell site (probably just me), how do we know it is being released? Is there a link I can follow?
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Re: Moebius Skipjack

Postby Robert F. » Fri Nov 16, 2012 3:36 pm

My point exactly, Andy!

Besides, for some time now we have seen several major kit manufacturers `exchanging`kits, repackaging them in a box of their own design, adding their own style of instructions and then putting them on the market. Revell have done this with numerous Hasegawa kits, Italeri with Kinetic kits, and so on. It´s the same in the automobile industry, with different manufacturers providing the same car to different markets under their own brand.

See for yourself:

http://www.revell.de/index.php?id=210&K ... age=2&nc=1

Does this look like the Moebius kit or what? Hint: look at the pedestals.....

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Re: Moebius Skipjack

Postby Giovanni » Fri Nov 16, 2012 4:20 pm

It is odd that the Revell Skipjack kit length is only 933mm ( 36.732" ).
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Re: Moebius Skipjack

Postby Tom Dougherty » Fri Nov 16, 2012 5:31 pm

Giovanni,
You're correct. 933 mm = 36.732 inches X 72 =2644.72 inches/12 = 220.39
That gives a scale length of 220.39 feet for the submarine; well short of the actual 251.7 ft.
Probably just a misprint by Revell....

or....they have scaled up their old 1/230 Skipjack, with all of it's inaccuracies (and visible reactor; placed all the way in the stern)

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Re: Moebius Skipjack

Postby Robert F. » Fri Nov 16, 2012 5:57 pm

Tom,

I don´t think that´s very likely, as Revell (Germany) have released quite a number of newly tooled kits in the recent past. Even the kits they did resize were resized new toolings (their Hunter jets for example).

No, my money definitely is on this being (going to be) the Moebius kit repackaged. YESSS!


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Re: Moebius Skipjack

Postby Tom Dougherty » Fri Nov 16, 2012 6:52 pm

I don´t think that´s very likely

It was a joke.
Still, can't quite figure what is up with the size discrepancy of 93.3 cms.
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Re: Moebius Skipjack

Postby redboat219 » Sat Nov 17, 2012 7:39 pm

I don't think your set up can really be called a piston tank , a more appropriate label would be Variable Volume WTC. More akin with RCABS/RCABS-R.
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Re: Moebius Skipjack

Postby Richard » Sun Nov 18, 2012 6:16 am

You know the old saying....'if it quacks and walks like a duck, then it is a duck" :D


The system has pistons in the tanks...therefore it's a piston tank.



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Re: Moebius Skipjack

Postby Sub culture » Sun Nov 18, 2012 7:52 am

All wtc's with ballast systems are variable volume regardless on the method of taking on and expelling water- think about it. This is a piston tank system, and it's absolutely nothing like RCAB's.
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Re: Moebius Skipjack

Postby redboat219 » Sun Nov 18, 2012 10:30 am

Looks a lot like this ; http://graysubs.tripod.com/ams1987/asso ... riners.htm

looks like your twin piston would still work even without the endcaps. As the pistons move in the wtc volume decreases and expands as the piston moves out.
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Re: Moebius Skipjack

Postby Sub culture » Sun Nov 18, 2012 10:50 am

That system uses bellows and has two inherent drawbacks.

1. The bellows will not retract as efficiently as a piston will, therefore this system uses up more space.

2. There will always be a small amount of residual air left inside the bellows which can compress as you dive deeper. This will affect the trim of the boat somewhat.

The chief advantage of bellows is that they are easier to use if you don't have access to a lathe.
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Re: Moebius Skipjack

Postby JWLaRue » Sun Nov 18, 2012 3:02 pm

It's a piston (well, two of them)...but instead of moving water like with the Engel piston, it moves air. It creates more buoyancy by leveraging the air in the dry space to 'fill' the piston.

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Re: Moebius Skipjack

Postby Bigdave » Sun Nov 18, 2012 6:34 pm

Very cool.
I just goes to show you there are no new ideas. :mrgreen:
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Re: Moebius Skipjack

Postby redboat219 » Mon Nov 26, 2012 7:05 am

Any updates?
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