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Help wanted - R-Class (1918)

Postby JBarche » Mon Jun 30, 2008 8:09 am

Hi all,
has someone some more information about this class. the few sketches and photos I found so far look quite interesting.
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Postby Davy » Mon Jun 30, 2008 10:00 am

Hi Jens,

What would you like to know?
They were a fascinating concept - fastest submarines underwater until the German Type XXI a quarter of a century later.

I built a 1:32 model of R4 in 2001 which was featured in the Association of Model Submariners Journal. I hope to have her sailing at the Norwich and Barrrow in Furness sub days this year.

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Postby JBarche » Tue Jul 01, 2008 4:24 am

Hi David,
Currently I'm still in the plannig/early drawing stages. the basic hull shape should be quite ok, but I would need more details of the rudder arrangement (as far as I understand twin rudders), conning tower and bow area. Yesterday I saw the photos on subpirates which show no outer doors for the torpedo tubes but the dravings I have show these doors :?: .
If I start building (still some other things in the queue) I wold go for either R9 or 10 (Newcastle is near :wink: )
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Postby Sub culture » Thu Jul 03, 2008 7:08 am

I believe original works drawings are available from the National Maritime Museum, although this service is usually more expensive than sourcing plans from other avenues (i.e. John Lambert). Unfortunately, I think the NMM is the only place you'll be lucky.

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Postby Davy » Fri Jul 04, 2008 9:20 am

Hi Jens,

Yes twin rudders with a skeg in between. (The narrow tapering stern made difficult access in my model. Eventually done by using a toothed belt to connect the rudders.)

Six torpedo tubes (She was very heavily armed) with doors.

John Lambert did not have drawings so I went to the Maritime Museum archive at Woolwich. Drawings cost me about £50 (then) for copying costs. I would love to be able to share them but copyright is a necessary evil!

Other useful sources are the RN submarine museum at Gosport. (Archive sources and very detailed photos for not too much money.) (BTW I will be at Gosport (with R4) on an AMS weekend at the RNSM 16/17th August)

Also look at a very interesting document BR3043 on this website:
http://submariners.co.uk

BR 3043 has some drawings in it also as well as interesting specs etc.

Also:
http://www.britsub.net

Hope this helps. What type of model/ scale are you thinking about building?

David
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Postby JBarche » Mon Jul 07, 2008 5:28 am

Andy, David
thanks for the reply.
At that point the BR3043 together wit a drawing I copied from a book (can't recall the name but it still stis on a bookshelf at my parents' back in Germany) are my main sources for the drawings.
I'm not sure whether to build in 1/30 or 1/50. my drawings are in 1/30 at the moment but I can rescale them easily.
Im also not completely suer if I build a single hull boat like my ShinKai (still under construction :oops: ) or try the approach with a double hull and a sewage pipe as pressure hull. This would probably depend on the scale I build.
I can't make it to Gosport in August, but if you have some photos I would be thankful if you could send them
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Postby Sub culture » Mon Jul 07, 2008 5:54 am

1/50th (or perhaps 1/48th) would produce a nice handy sized model to tuck under your arm.

1/30th(1/32nd) results in quite a large boat, like David's. Looks impressive on the water, but a bit of a hulk to lug about.

I think wet hull principles would work well for both.
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Postby JBarche » Mon Jul 07, 2008 1:33 pm

Hi,
here are some renderings of the model I use to make the drawings
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still quite basic but you can imagine how the real thing looks like
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Postby Sub culture » Tue Jul 08, 2008 6:17 am

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Photo courtesy of John Bass and Model Boat Mayhem.
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Postby Davy » Wed Jul 09, 2008 4:37 am

Thanks for digging the photo out Andy.

That is 1:32 and she has a PVC sewer pipe WTC. The diameter of the PVC pipe basically determined the scale, I chose.

She is OK to lift etc. but I must say that my Holland in 1:32 fits under my arm better!

BTW memory is clearly failing me because I have been referring to my model as R4 whenshe is actually R7!

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Re: Help wanted - R-Class (1918)

Postby JBarche » Sun Feb 21, 2010 12:02 pm

Hi,
I bring the topic up again because I have used the time and drawn a plan for these subs.
I needed the drawings anyway so I decided to make them looking a bit prettier in case someone is interested. My hobby budget is always in need of some top-up :wink: amd most of the work was done already.

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So if anyone is interested, contact me.
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Re: Help wanted - R-Class (1918)

Postby Sub culture » Wed Feb 24, 2010 4:57 pm

David doesn't post on this board anymore- he left the Sub Committee last year.

His boat was based on a limited run of castings produced by UK modeller Nigel Edmonds.

The hull was based on the British built Hollands.

Here is a picture of Davids Holland taken at last years Norwich show in August.

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and at Merstham Steam Show a couple of years ago.

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