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Postby Himszy » Mon Sep 05, 2005 12:01 pm

Sub culture wrote:I have received an email from Emma Spray this morning.

Emma SPRAY in charge of the pool? :D MMMM interesting......
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Postby Paul von Braun » Mon Sep 05, 2005 3:20 pm

Andy,
that does sound awfully expensive.
What do you think about Black Park, not a million miles away.
Parking is £2 for the day, and its public property - can we get charged for using that?

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Postby Himszy » Mon Sep 05, 2005 3:41 pm

Well as I see it, we have two options:

Either move to a different venue.
OR
Think of ways to raise the money.

If we move, do we go for a swimming pool, or a pond/lake? Do we find a private pool, or a public pool?

Found this:
http://www.wandsworth.gov.uk/Home....ido.htm
Look at the size of that pool! Sadly I don't think that it is for private hire.

Or what about this one?
http://www.hagbourne.oxon.sch.uk/School_pool_hire.htm
Pool hire is £10. Thats £80 for pool, and the lifeguards it says here cost £6p/h. Now that means that if we need 2 lifeguards like Andy says, then £16p/h. So a total of £208! However it doesn't look like an extremely large pool, and I've no idea of where it is. But then it is indoors. A field is right next to it, we would be supporting a school, and with 40 people going it would only cost £5.20.

Just a suggestion

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Postby Himszy » Mon Sep 05, 2005 3:59 pm

Hi,

I've just emailed a person at the University of Birmingham, inquiring as to the cost to host it there. I'll let you know the cost when he replies. Sadly I don't have a picture, but it is a very large pool and a school I used to go to hire it for swimming lessons, (of which my mum is a teacher).

Also my mum is classed as a lifeguard for any 25m pool which includes the University Of Birmingham. That any help?

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Postby Sub culture » Tue Sep 06, 2005 5:32 am

Thanks for all the suggestions.

I checked out all the London lidos. Tooting Bec Lido is fantastic, probably the largest open air pool left in the country. I can only imagine what the cost to hire that for the day would be, but it would probably be at least £1000!

To be honest, I wanted somewhere fairly local. Organising one of these things is tricky enough, whithout having to rattle up and down the motorway aswell.

The small school pool looks nice, but as you said perhaps a little too small. However, very competitive rates of hire. By the looks of their website, the school is based in Oxfordshire.

I've never been to Black Park, however I know it attracts a strong crowd of submariners. One possibility I'll bear in mind.

Birmingham is too far for me. If you want to organise something up there by all means go ahead, and I'll help where I can.

However I couldn't take overall responsibility for the event if it was held that far away.

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Postby Sub culture » Thu Sep 15, 2005 11:51 am

Received another email from Emma today.

I asked if a reduction in price was possible. The best she could offer, was to wave the cost of life guard hire, so we would still be looking at £394 for the 8 hour hire, plus VAT.

Now as far as I know, aren't clubs such as ours considered to be 'charities'?

If so, then we can at least claim back the VAT.

Food for thought.

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Postby JWLaRue » Thu Sep 15, 2005 3:41 pm

Andy,

The SubCommittee is incorporated as a non-profit organization. Perhaps this will help with your discussions with Emma?

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Postby Himszy » Thu Sep 15, 2005 4:18 pm

Andy, from what I understand:

In order to be VAT exempt you need to be a registered charity. In the UK, being a non-profit organisation and a registered charity are slightly different. So unless you can provide us with the Subcommittee's resgistered charity number for the UK, Jeff(which I doubt you have), we will have to pay for the VAT.

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Postby Paul von Braun » Thu Sep 15, 2005 6:14 pm

Well, that's a significant reduction in the cost in my book. Despite Michael's sledgehammer way of putting it, he is probably correct about the registered charity issue - and given that the subcommittee ia a primarily US based organisation I agree that it is doubtful that it is registered as a charity in this country. :(

So, that leaves us with two options. Either move it to somewhere cheaper if numbers cannot be guaranteed, or perhaps sell tickets in advance. But then I guess Middx Uni want the cash up front...

I feel that the costs of other things ought to be weighed up too, such as the cost of publicising the event in the rags that are MMI and MB (we all know who!).

All that said, is there not a bit of water in almers Green, Andy? Could be my imagination.

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Postby Sub culture » Fri Sep 16, 2005 6:16 am

Yes ther is a boating pond in Palmers Green- Broomfield Park.

Nice little lake, for targets, hopeless for submarines though. At it's deepest it is only about 15", and that just won't cut it I'm afraid.

There are a couple of other places I can try, but to be honest, they're not such nice venues.

Regarding advertising, it's my understanding that magazines will list these events free of charge.

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Postby Himszy » Fri Sep 23, 2005 12:32 pm

Andy any news?

We using their pool or finding another?

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Postby Sub culture » Wed Sep 28, 2005 11:21 am

I've been away in the balearics for a few days, and just got back today.

As things stand at the moment, I am looking into alternatives. Will post when I have something worthwhile to say.
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Postby Himszy » Wed Sep 28, 2005 2:00 pm

Ok Andy,

Was the holiday nice?

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Postby Sub culture » Thu Sep 29, 2005 12:45 pm

Very nice!

Plenty of swimming pools over in Menorca. Seven in my hotel alone!
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Postby Paul von Braun » Mon Oct 24, 2005 6:44 pm

Andy,
with reference to your earlier post on rc groups.com, will you be elaborating further on here?

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