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Postby U812 » Thu Aug 04, 2005 8:57 pm

You bet. But right now I'm carving the Type 17 tool and the Typhoon side by side. I'm coming on you nut! LOL!

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Postby Wayne Frey » Thu Aug 04, 2005 11:45 pm

I can dig the Typhoon thing, but nobody has done a Delta IV.
Still a front line boat for the Russians, the Delta IV would be a good choice because:
1-Has not been done.
2-Less material to do each hull. Half what the Typhoon would be.
3-Still a big honking size hull!!
4-Front line boat.
5-Delta IV has far less pesky holes to file!
Really, I wish someone would crank out a quality 1/96 hull.
I would buy one.
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Postby yoda_helimag » Fri Aug 05, 2005 11:48 am

Hi

Delta IV would be great! maybe in 1/144 :;): :cool:
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Postby U812 » Fri Aug 05, 2005 5:03 pm

Wayne. Post some pictures of that big beast. Please.

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Postby Sub culture » Sat Aug 06, 2005 2:28 am

U812 wrote:you sure have a point there. There is a guy in OZ that makes two sizes of Typhoon. I believe Bob Martin has one of the larger ones.

Still the smaller Typhoon is still large. Bob if I'm wrong about the location of the kit please set me straight. I know yours isn't an Engle.

Bob's Typhoon is an old 32nd Parallel kit.

The other kit producer is Kehrer Modellbau, who supply very nice looking Typhoon Hulls in either 1/100 or a rather more manageable 1/150th scale.

A French company has just started supplying a 1/100th scale vacformed(!!) Typhoon.

Not such a bad idea I guess, as the hull form lends itself well to vacforming, but I'm not overwhelmed by the design of the pressure hull, which apart from being the wrong shape- i.e. flat- doesn't look very substantial.

So, a very big pool toy then.................!

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Postby Wayne Frey » Sat Aug 06, 2005 9:36 am

A almost forgotten Typhoon hull is the 1/96 Copeland kit.
Workmanship was good. Nice, thick, epoxy hull.
I like the 1/96 scale. It seems to be a standard size.
However, details at the time were not well known. The bow has a more correct shape than the Engle kit, but the stern shape is wrong. Some details below the waterline were absent as well.
Copeland also made a 1/96 Ohio that was quite the kit. I wish the holder of the molds would get permission to release some hulls. It is a nice looking kit also.
Still say a 1/96 Delta IV would look cool..........
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Postby ThorDesign » Sat Aug 06, 2005 11:52 am

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Postby Wayne Frey » Sat Aug 06, 2005 3:05 pm

Matt,
As I slowly correct the tail of mine, I have thought the same thing. It would have been almost easier to start from nothing.
I have gained an even bigger respect for the efforts done by peolple like you, Upshaw,Assay, Merrimen, and others.
The Ohio was pretty close though. Shame he would not sell that one. Wonder why not, if he is out of the hobby?
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Postby U812 » Sat Aug 06, 2005 3:19 pm

Wayne,

Delta Iv next. It's really growing on me that huge humped backed whale!

Thanks for all the pics and drawings!

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Postby expfcwintergreen » Sat Aug 06, 2005 6:56 pm

What scale for the Delta IV Steve?
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Postby Wayne Frey » Sat Aug 06, 2005 7:13 pm

Excellent point.
You are doing some smaller kits, which is a good thing.
I can see these 6 foot monsters will take a little wrestling.
The Delta IV would make a good smaller kit.
OR :)
You could go for it and make it in 1/96 scale, to be fenced with at the ponds against the Seawolf and 688's.
But, realisticly, not many would spend the money for an epoxy hull that big (should be epoxy). Knowing that, I would still throw down for one :)
Perhaps a preorder list of interested people would help you.
I have more on the Delta, by the way....
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Postby U812 » Sat Aug 06, 2005 7:14 pm

Not sure yet Chris. Most likely to fit Merriman's 3 WTC. 1/96 would be pretty big I think. Lets kick it around as I finish off the type 17 and little typhoon.

Or would you guys like to see a small one for Dave Welch's WTC?

The more I looked at this big ugly thing the more it became a thing of beauty to me. Know what I mean?

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Postby U812 » Sat Aug 06, 2005 7:19 pm

Wayne,

you have a point there. I could make it fit the type 7 WTC as it's for two screws. Dave is going to offer a larger section of poly carb for the same WTC so it can be used on either boat (Typhoon or Type 7).

But the typhoon and Delta would need the increase volume for the WTC to get them to sit at the true water line.

It's simple just changing out the section as there are no hook ups to it. Just longer and more air reserve.

Steve

P.S. More? I like it. When you can Wayne and thanks for the help!
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Postby expfcwintergreen » Sat Aug 06, 2005 8:16 pm

Not sure about 1/96, but bigger is better. I think this subject deserves a grand scale.

Like I mentioned in a previous thread, the design of this boat has a rather nasty, menacing (yet appealing) look to it. Something the OHIO designers left out...

Suggestion: Poll the community and get a feel for who can/will actually pony up for one, and what scale is most popular within that group.
Plenty of people have opinions, but in the end, money speaks loudest and clearest...




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Postby Wayne Frey » Sat Aug 06, 2005 8:42 pm

The Delta IV is about the same lenght as a Typhoon.
There are a few shots of my Typhoon on my homepage if you want to look.
A poll would be good.
expfcwintergreen, I saw that Seawolf of yours last year. With a Delta in the same scale you could have quite a time at the pond...
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