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Postby Tom Dougherty » Sun Jul 24, 2005 9:16 pm

Just as a heads up, a new book will be out in September on the Russian submarine K-129. I've posted the website for this book (below) and have corresponded with one of the authors, Ken Sewell. Ken served on the USS Parche, and knows Dr. John Craven. He promises that the book will be a very interesting read with new insights from research from the former Soviet Union. For those of you in the Groton/New London, CT area, Ken will be at the annual Boats, Books & Brushes event held in New London on Sept. 17-18.

As some of you know, the K-129 affair has been a longstanding interest of mine. I sent Ken a copy of the article in the SCR (September, 2002) that my son & I wrote on the K-129. He was very gracious and complimentary on our research. Good background reading for the coming book.

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Postby Gerwalk » Wed Jul 27, 2005 1:58 pm

Seems like Ken follows Craven's idea of a rogue submarine. Very interesting. I hope his book would be a little less darker than Craven's. I loved Craven's book but hate all that "I cannot confirm or deny" speech (though I understand his reasons) all over the book: he can't even say it was the K-129 or even that it was a Golf!
I like his explanation on the similarities with the Red October novel!

Tom: I haven't read your article (I'd love to!) In your opinion was a rogue sub or not?

Thanks for the heads up!
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Postby Tom Dougherty » Fri Jul 29, 2005 11:34 pm

Craven said," The numbers on the submarine hull would remain engraved in my mind.....60 Minutes speaks of it as the K-129...I can honestly say... that it was news to me." Well, yeah, Soviet submarines have their squadron numbers painted on the side, not the hull numbers! The Soviets have admitted to losing a submarine designted as K-129. Craven is skirting around issues that he can't talk about. The odd thing is he states, "It was news to me the first time I heard the submarine described as a Golf class submarine". There seems to be little doubt it was a Golf, and the Russians have never said otherwise, so I'm not sure what to make of those opaque statements.

"Tom: I haven't read your article (I'd love to!) In your opinion was a rogue sub or not"?

My son & I just laid out the possibilities (rogue being one scenario) with the information we had dug up. We didn't indicate a preference for hypotheses.




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Postby Gerwalk » Mon Aug 08, 2005 9:30 am

Tom Dougherty wrote:Craven said," The numbers on the submarine hull would remain engraved in my mind.....60 Minutes speaks of it as the K-129...I can honestly say... that it was news to me." Well, yeah, Soviet submarines have their squadron numbers painted on the side, not the hull numbers! The Soviets have admitted to losing a submarine designted as K-129. Craven is skirting around issues that he can't talk about. The odd thing is he states, "It was news to me the first time I heard the submarine described as a Golf class submarine". There seems to be little doubt it was a Golf, and the Russians have never said otherwise, so I'm not sure what to make of those opaque statements.

"Tom: I haven't read your article (I'd love to!) In your opinion was a rogue sub or not"?

My son & I just laid out the possibilities (rogue being one scenario) with the information we had dug up. We didn't indicate a preference for hypotheses.

Craven plays a lot with the "secret" issues and sometimes he is too obscure. The russians admit that it was a Golf, I don't undertand why he is still refusing to admit so! As for the number on the hull: your explanation is very good but I think that Craven should know about this... I like his book but I think he was playing "Spy vs Spy" a little too long.
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