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Postby Tom Dougherty » Tue Oct 04, 2005 8:40 am

Coming soon. A 1:350 scale Hotel Class SSBN kit. Now you can build your own K-19!

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Postby mike byers » Tue Oct 04, 2005 8:49 am

My Christmas list for Santa keeps growing! :p
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Postby Gerwalk » Tue Oct 04, 2005 4:26 pm

Nice! A little bit pricey but nice!
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Postby Tom Dougherty » Tue Oct 04, 2005 9:47 pm

Pricey? It's $22. Come on, it's the only show in town for a Hotel class! That's competitive with their Oscar class kits at $29. Besides, we have all these people drooling over the (as yet vaporware) Revell Gato kit. At 1/72, that puppy is going to run in the $120-150 range (before the aftermarket geegaws).

I was actually trying to find Hotel class plans, as I was going to attempt a scratchbuild of that class. Now all we need is a decent Golf class model and I can complete my Glomar Explorer diorama...
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Postby JDBostrom » Tue Oct 04, 2005 9:57 pm

If you do find some Hotel plans, please let me know as I am hoping to do a 1/72 K-19 some time in the near future (who knows what that means....).

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Postby Gerwalk » Wed Oct 05, 2005 8:50 am

Tom Dougherty wrote:Pricey? It's $22. Come on, it's the only show in town for a Hotel class! That's competitive with their Oscar class kits at $29. Besides, we have all these people drooling over the (as yet vaporware) Revell Gato kit. At 1/72, that puppy is going to run in the $120-150 range (before the aftermarket geegaws).

I was actually trying to find Hotel class plans, as I was going to attempt a scratchbuild of that class. Now all we need is a decent Golf class model and I can complete my Glomar Explorer diorama...

I'm not saying I cannot afford it but compared to Alanger's Akula (a really nice kit) at 15$ or the 1/144 kits from Trumpeter (in the range of 20$) it looks a little bit expensive (in relative terms for the scale!)

And your right it's in the same price range as their Oscars (BTW: the Zvedza Oscars have a wrong stern in terms of the lower vertical planes, hope the new sub won't have this kind of gross mistakes!)

For scratchbuilding a Hotel you only need a Julliet model and add a fake stern to it, hide the missile launchers and find some plastic figures of Harrison Ford and Liam Neeson! :D
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Postby Gerwalk » Wed Oct 05, 2005 4:23 pm

Just to confirm my point of view on the price:
Dragon Models will distribute the kit in the USA at 15.95$. Release date: December 2005

http://www.dragonmodelsusa.com/dmlusa/prodd.asp?pid=ZVE9025

It's just 6$ cheaper but is more or less the shipping cost. :)
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Postby Tom Dougherty » Wed Oct 05, 2005 5:30 pm

I always have such trouble painting the eyes on the 1:350 scale figures of Ford and Neeson....

So, $15.95 sounds really good! Not sure how we'll determine the kit accuracy, as drawings of the Hotel class SSBN are scarce.
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Postby Mylo » Wed Oct 05, 2005 11:25 pm

If these cool static kits keep coming out, I'm never going to get around to my R/C build.

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Postby Gerwalk » Thu Oct 06, 2005 8:49 am

Tom Dougherty wrote:I always have such trouble painting the eyes on the 1:350 scale figures of Ford and Neeson....

So, $15.95 sounds really good! Not sure how we'll determine the kit accuracy, as drawings of the Hotel class SSBN are scarce.

Scarce? Seems like you are not checking the FAS site!!
This drawing is a beauty, full of accurate details!

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They should be ashamed by having a five years old child drawing as a reference!

These are better:
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Postby Tom Dougherty » Thu Oct 06, 2005 11:03 am

What? You don't like the FAS drawings? These are factual drawings, based on their theories of submarine design!

I agree the second set from the Russian Naval site are much better, but trying to draw accurate cross sectional plans to scale from those drawings would still be a challenge.




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Postby Gerwalk » Thu Oct 06, 2005 1:37 pm

Tom Dougherty wrote:What? You don't like the FAS drawings? These are factual drawings, based on their theories of submarine design!

I agree the second set from the Russian Naval site are much better, but trying to draw accurate crossisectional plans to scale from those drawings would still be a challenge.

Good think about the lack of good references to compare the model is the silly happiness associated to a OOTB construction
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Postby Gerwalk » Mon Oct 17, 2005 4:23 pm

Tom Dougherty wrote:I was actually trying to find Hotel class plans, as I was going to attempt a scratchbuild of that class. Now all we need is a decent Golf class model and I can complete my Glomar Explorer diorama...

What about this one?:

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Postby Tom Dougherty » Mon Oct 17, 2005 6:42 pm

It's a prebuilt model. I would love to have one as a kit, not as a build-up. Any idea on the prices? I understand these kits are very good but also very expensive.
Tom

UPDATE: Just found the pricing. The model is 1:400 scale and costs $289 and shipping is $51. Thanks, but I'll pass....




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Postby Gerwalk » Wed Oct 19, 2005 9:24 am

Tom Dougherty wrote:It's a prebuilt model. I would love to have one as a kit, not as a build-up. Any idea on the prices? I understand these kits are very good but also very expensive.
Tom

UPDATE: Just found the pricing. The model is 1:400 scale and costs $289 and shipping is $51. Thanks, but I'll pass....

Wow! more than 300$ for a 1/400 model??? They are crazy (Ivan)! :( I thought they were 100$ or so...
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Which scale are you planning for your Glomar Explorer diorama?
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