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Revell Type VII Railings - sizes?

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Postby Wayne Frey » Wed Jun 08, 2005 7:24 pm

I posted this on another part of this website and saw no answers.
What size brass rods seem to look right for making the wintergarden,rungs, and rails on the sail of the Revell Type VII?
I bet someone has lashed one together and stood back and was satisfied.
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Postby JWLaRue » Wed Jun 08, 2005 10:20 pm

Wayne,

I have dimensions for the railings...but my notebook is at home and I'm not!

I'll try to remember to pull them this weekend.

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Postby Boss subfixer » Thu Jun 09, 2005 6:45 am

Jeff,
I would be interested too. The rails on my boat are broken and warped. Brass seems to be the best fix.
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Postby Wayne Frey » Thu Jun 09, 2005 8:02 am

Yes,
I am at the point where this is my next job on the conning tower. Any tips, tricks, or problems doing this would be appreciated also.
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Postby Gerwalk » Thu Jun 09, 2005 10:07 am

Gents,
I think you can figure out the actual diameter of the rails from pics like this:


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Postby Wayne Frey » Thu Jun 09, 2005 10:48 am

Love the picture. But, I am not good at guessing.
Size,anyone?
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Postby mike byers » Thu Jun 09, 2005 11:22 am

My guess is 2" diameter pipe (in the Photo).

Being that this is a european vessel and the fact that its 50 odd years old, I doubt that railing diameters have changed much in the last several decades.

Nowadays, pipe railings are generally between 1.25" and 2" diameter (1.5" being most common).

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Postby Wayne Frey » Thu Jun 09, 2005 11:26 am

Sorry,
I meant the size for the brass rod forthe 1/72 hull for the wintergarden,rungs, and deck rails
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Postby Mkeatingss » Thu Jun 09, 2005 12:12 pm

One and a half inches works out to, a hair less than, .021", in 1:72 scale.
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Postby Gerwalk » Thu Jun 09, 2005 1:08 pm

I would say 2"... Looks bigger than 1.5" to me. I was trying to imitate the hand gesture of the crew member grabbing the handrail and figure out the diameter. But I'm a big guy and my hand is also big so maybe I'm wrong :D
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Postby Wayne Frey » Sat Jun 11, 2005 8:39 am

Last night I laid some .032 brass rod next to the plastic wintergarden. It looks about right, although the verticals look slightly smaller.
I think the rungs and rail around the base may be the same size also......
Seems like a silly thing to debate. I know a few out there have done this.
Kinda like the RCB question I had not long ago. ( How deep? ),
seems like an obvious question. Surprising I have not seen this question before.....
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Postby Captain Nemo12 » Sat Jun 11, 2005 7:39 pm

Hmmm... I don't own a Revell Type VII but I think one way in figuring out the correct size is by comparing the actual plastic railings provided in the kit itself to brass rods you have in stock, it's only a matter of time to finding the closets match! :D
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Postby Captain Nemo12 » Sat Jun 11, 2005 9:35 pm

Oops, sorry, I didn't read that last post! Anyways, sometimes the simplest way is the best way! :D
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Postby Boss subfixer » Sun Jun 12, 2005 6:33 am

I remember seeing a post just about the time the kit was released that talked about the inaccurate railings and corrective sizes were mentioned (still looking for the post). It could have been on a different forum.
The thread did say that the rails in the kit were way out of scale on the heavy side, so I wouldn't go by comparing brass rod to the kit rails.
My two cents.

P.S. I did find the post. April 13 04 under scatch built parts.




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Postby JWLaRue » Sun Jun 12, 2005 4:51 pm

Here's what I used:

For a 1/32nd scale Type VII Wintergarten -

Top railing - 3/32"
Center railing - 5/64"
Large vertical stanchions - 1/16"
Small vertical stanchions - 3/64"

Mapped back to the full size boat -

Top railing - 3" or 7.5 cm
Center railing - 2.5" or 6.25 cm
Large vertical stanchions - 2.0" or 5 cm
Small vertical stanchions - 1.5" 0r 3.75 cm

The above are estimates based on photo interpretation and access to the U-505.

Converted to a 1/72nd Wintergarten (with closest available wire equivalents) -

Top railing - 0.042" (use 0.047" music wire)
Center railing - 0.035" (use 0.032" music wire)
Large vertical stanchions - 0.025" (use 0.025" music wire)
Small vertical stanchions - 0.020" (use 0.020" music wire)

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