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Postby JC Carbonel » Fri Jan 09, 2004 7:15 am

I hate to mention it but what is the current idea on weathering that biggie typ VII :

- most of the german pix (b/W) seem to depict rather clean machines and noticeably weathering is rather unequal with some machines having clean hull and flacking paint on the conning tower and other having good-looking tower but a hull which seems to have received various paints at various ages ("la Vache qui rit" seems a good example with remnants of white camo on the hull ?)

- but ...a few colours pix of US origin showing surrendering u-boots has prominent flacking paint and wide areas of rust ...

So is it just a question of rust not looking good for the PK team ? or the maintenance becoming loosy at the end of the war (rather un-Germanic idea !)...

Modelling : should the underwater section be weathered too ? if so how ? (rust ? dark/black ?)

I am interested by your commentaries

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Postby raalst » Fri Jan 09, 2004 12:03 pm

I expect the underside to be weathered just like any
ship : lots of growth and algae.
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Postby JC Carbonel » Fri Jan 09, 2004 2:27 pm

Well sure in real world . But my question was rather what is the usual way to render that in model form ? (I am coming from "aircraft" and "afv" modellings and we rarely deal with alguae and concretions ....)

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Postby raalst » Fri Jan 09, 2004 4:13 pm

to be honest, I do not have a clue either.
The waterline will show a ragged white band,
but the rest depends, I guess.
the algae are a very dakr green/black when wet,
more greenish when dry.
will the model be in dock or ..?
Then again, I have no clue how effective the
anti-fouling was (that is the algae repelling paint)
if it was used at all.

I am afraid there are a few aspects of this kit which we
will have to "invent" rather than research.

love to see the pictures of your boat when finished!
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Postby sam reichart » Fri Jan 09, 2004 4:53 pm

You could add some "dishing" of the hull sides by using an airbrush and darkening the base color along side the plating lines. Depending on whether you model a boat that was in the N Atlantic or the Med will determine whether or not to add green to the waterline to simulate algae. Cold weather means no green; more grays and tans. I would use a fan blender brush to draw the scum line at the water line down on the hull. Rust for around the limber holes, and don't forget- boats that pulled along side a pier probably got scratched up by crap that was floating in the water- wood, timbers, maybe some barrels or crates.
Above ideas were what I did for my OTW Type XXIII, and the help for the finish goes to David Merriman; especially in defining the "scum" line at the waterline.

Hope this helps,
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Postby JC Carbonel » Sat Jan 10, 2004 7:31 am

OK thanks to both of you.

the article will be posted on Modelstories, hopefully at the end of the month. So far only the hull is completed and painted in base colour (Tam German grey)

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Postby expfcwintergreen » Sat Jan 10, 2004 11:06 am

An excellent reference is David Merriman's two-video set on finishing. He covers many of these topics. Worthwhile investment. Nothing better than being able to actually watch one of the masters do it, while they are describing it.
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Postby sam reichart » Sat Jan 10, 2004 9:12 pm

forgot all about them tapes! absolutely a great way to get some instruction! thanks Chris!
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