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Kerry Addington's Seaview?

Postby junglelord » Tue Aug 18, 2009 10:59 pm

TMSmalley wrote:Image
Tom Witstock talks to Kerry Addington (R) about Kerry's GIANT Seaview hull.
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May I ask where did you get that hulk of a Seaview hull Kerry?
Is that a Rick Teskey hull?
Do you have a thread about it?
I would love any and all information you could give me on what it has operational, ie sail planes, lights, RCABS or gas, and where, if possible one may get one!
Thanks and Cheers!
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Postby TMSmalley » Tue Aug 18, 2009 11:35 pm

A guy in South Dakota built and sold them a number of years ago. Word is he is starting up again, and Tom Wittstock ordered one, but I'm blanking on the builder's name :oops: . Any help here?
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Postby Boss subfixer » Wed Aug 19, 2009 12:30 am

Tim by any chance are you thinking of Dennis DeBoer?
If so here is a link to his web site. Nice stuff!
http://www.deboerhulls.com/
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Postby Kerry Addington » Wed Aug 19, 2009 10:01 am

Sorry for being tardy to class!
That is the DeBoer 80" kit, purchased by me some 15 years ago.
I assembled the hull and modified the nose to emulate the 17-footer.
Project has been in limbo since moving to "easier" challenges, but I am gathering intel/advice as to how to resume. The SubRegatta provided me the opportunity for Q&A with Seaview Grand Masters David Merriman and Rick Teskey, who set me straight on all that is important regarding this hull form, and Crazy Ivan took great time to show me his Moebius build.
Quite by chance I learned of an Austrailian fellow, username "LOFTRIDER"
who was familiar with the Sub-Driver Forum and he along with others prompted me to start a "DeBoer Seaview" thread there to attract general discussion. LOFTRIDER has posted regarding his build of the DB80 and JohnG likewise with the 57" Teskey hull.
As you can see at deboerhulls.com, the 80 is back in production.
I believe Tom Witsock has placed an order.
-Kerry
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Postby Sub culture » Wed Aug 19, 2009 10:30 am

LOFTRIDER, is English not Australian.
'Why are you staring at an empty pond?'

Want to dive your boat in crystal clear water? Then you had better Dive-in- http://www.diveintomodelsubmarines.co.uk
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Postby junglelord » Wed Aug 19, 2009 4:38 pm

Thanks everyone.
Could you make a thread here Kerry>?

I hope to get one too.

I like the bilgepump Nautilus I have seen.
I wonder if one could make a bilgepump Seaview, totally wet.

Also wonder about making it in the fashion of Big Dave's pumpjet system.

Lots of options I would think with that size.
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Postby SteveNeill » Wed Aug 19, 2009 7:38 pm

Kerry she's a beaut!

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Postby Kerry Addington » Thu Aug 20, 2009 11:17 am

SubCulture-
Apologies to the Empire for mis-identifying the residence of LOFTRIDER.
Perhaps I was still reeling from seeing a familiar UK surname like Addington mis-spelled by a Canadian?
In any event, to my knowledge, if LOFTRIDER succeeds in building a DB80 that runs both on and below the surface, he will be a Nation of One.
Steve-
Thanks, but the real kudos must go to Dennis DeBoer for offering such a beautiful and robust piece. One of a kind.
And isn't it great he has resumed production?
-Kerry
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Postby junglelord » Thu Aug 20, 2009 12:31 pm

Sorry Kerry, not a mis-spell, (which I am guilty of all too frequently) but a missing letter.
I thought I typed in the G.....
I corrected that....and my apolgies.

Now why could it not be surface and submerged with a 12 vs 24 volt option, like the Nautlius I have seen that runs wet with bilge pumps?

Also I do not see why it could not work with a pump and bladder bag of either RCABS, or pumping water into a bag inside the WTC. I think that a Big Dave Pumpjet would be nice for surface running...scaled up of course.

Do you have a plan to make it submerge, or do you plan on only surface running?

Thanks again Kerry.
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Postby Kerry Addington » Thu Aug 20, 2009 1:43 pm

The project for me is dormant right now, so I would urge you to monitor LOFTRIDER and JOHNG build notes and invite them here if you like.
Concerning propulsion and ballast devices,
I threw a lot of stuff past the Seaview Masters at the SubRegatta, and the two responses I remember most are:

1) " Don't reinvent the wheel "

2) "There are many ways to skin a cat, but there is only one right way."

Regarding my plans, I plan to copy what someone else has shown that works.
As far as doing something new or different, the BD80 prompts dreams of
launching and retrieving the same-scale Aurora FS-1.
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Postby Carcharadon » Sun Aug 23, 2009 8:16 am

Dean, I don’t know enough about the hydrodynamics of the Seaview to say whether or not the dual voltage system would work.

If the Seaview behaves like the Nautilus I’m sure it would.

For the Nautilus, when a certain speed is reached (around 4 mph), hydrodynamic forces in the front, similar to lift on a plane wing, cause the nose to dip and the sub to go under.

Once submerged the downward force is neutralized by the mirror image of the upper hull and the sub levels out.

If the Seaview shares this behavior the bilge pump system would be an excellent adaptation.

I understand the Seaview will nosedive; is it relative to speed? Also once submerged will it level out?

Also the smallest Nautilus that can use the bilge pump system is 4 foot or 1/40 scale. Any smaller and the pumps will not fit. So the system (most likely) would not fit in the smaller Seaview models.


I’m trying to get information on the JetNautilus in one place, it’s a work in progress

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Jetnautilus/

Tom

Latest video

http://home.comcast.net/~byourk/pool.wmv
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Postby junglelord » Tue Aug 25, 2009 9:29 am

The way that model turns can only be described as the same as the Walley World subs. Crazy tight.

I think a 80" Seaview may work with bilge pumps.
I think the Big Dave approach may work with this size too.
I am also interested in a water control system via pumps and chambers/tubes.

I would like to get a Deboer Enterprise and sail them both.
:D

Only $1800 apiece. I need to sell my motorcycle.
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Postby Scott T » Tue Aug 25, 2009 1:40 pm

That video of the Nautilus in the pool is pretty cool.
The jet drive added to some big boomer models could
turn them into pool toys. The pool video shows the
turning and manuvering ability to better advantage
than the big pond videos. I am impressed.

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Postby Carcharadon » Tue Aug 25, 2009 2:32 pm

There were just a couple of things I wanted to see but while I was at it I thought I’d just play around. It was awful tempting to hit the turbo button but I had to exercise restraint.

Thanks for the comment.
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