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HMS Thames

Postby greenman407 » Thu Oct 07, 2010 9:38 am

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Image What a handsome looking boat. It was of the River class and was launched in Feb. 26 1932. Its war service was limited yet quite remarkable at the same time. It torpedoed a german torpedo boat named "Luchs" that was escorting the damaged Gneisenau. To be able to hit a torpedo boat with another torpedo was either quite by accident or remarkable shooting. It was probably firing at the Cruiser and the torpedo boat got in the way. At any rate the Thames was lost in either July or early August 1940, probably due to a mine off the coast of Norway. The structure forming a turret if you will, around the forward gun was a novel idea. It afforded the gun crews additional protection from the weather and return fire from an enemy. However most submarines deleted this feature as it probably impeaded gun laying and maintenance.
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Re: HMS Thames

Postby Thor » Thu Oct 07, 2010 11:16 am

I agree! Many of the WWII British submarines are very nice modeling subjects are have greatly been ignored. We are working up the CAD for a 1/32nd Scale U Class Submarine to be a partner to our 1/32nd PIKE and a great subject to sail alongside the OTW British S class sub. It is way down the priority list for now, but I think it will be a popular boat. The T class is another, very interesting, boat.

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Re: HMS Thames

Postby greenman407 » Thu Oct 07, 2010 12:11 pm

You guys are certainly giving the submarine modeller plenty of choices. Very Good! Back to the Thames, notice this picture.

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This picture shows what seems to be a Japanese I-400 class sub next to a Gato/balao/Tench boat with a enclosure around the 3" or 4" gun that has been moved from the deck up on to the conning tower. Those silly Americans always experimenting!Its not completely enclosed, more like a bathtub.
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Re: HMS Thames

Postby Thor » Thu Oct 07, 2010 1:07 pm

Where are you getting all of these excellent pictures of the Thames?
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Re: HMS Thames

Postby roedj » Thu Oct 07, 2010 1:37 pm

Thor wrote: We are working up the CAD for a 1/32nd Scale U Class Submarine to be a partner to our 1/32nd PIKE and a great subject to sail alongside the OTW British S class sub.
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Matt,

Now, you have my attention. I am slowly but surely building an approx. 1/35 (or so) U class sub. It's an old Darnell design. Which group of "U's" are you modeling? I favor the later ones, the ones without the exterior forward torpedoes.

Keep us posted on this boat although it's way down in the stack. My avatar is a "U" class sub.

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Re: HMS Thames

Postby greenman407 » Thu Oct 07, 2010 2:11 pm

Thor, I got all of them from Google image search, or the listed websites. Sometimes it takes a little time to do the research but not too long. :D
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Re: HMS Thames

Postby wlambing » Thu Oct 07, 2010 3:56 pm

Greenman,

The boat you describe as a US boat is NOT. It is British!! Thank you for playing, please try again!

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Re: HMS Thames

Postby greenman407 » Thu Oct 07, 2010 5:06 pm

AH HA! Now we are getting somewhere! If its not a fleet boat( sure looks like one) then what is it? :shock: :| :)
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Re: HMS Thames

Postby wlambing » Thu Oct 07, 2010 7:49 pm

Greenie,

Looks not a whit like any US boat! You need many, many, more hours of recognition drills! Looks like an RN, HMS Parthian (P class, N75, c 1929). Except for the closed bridge leading edge, could even be a T class, as some of them had spray shields on the forward mount, but had open bridges.

By the way, the boat on the left isn't Japanese, either. That's not a hanger. It's the gun turret! There is an optical range finder sticking out on top of the turret cylindrincal side. Looks alot like HMS M-1, or similar. Upon closer inspection, I believe it to be Surcouf, the Free French submarine cruiser. This is based on the superstructure plaing below the turret.

You posted the picture, YOU tell us what it really is, rather than what it isn't.

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Re: HMS Thames

Postby Thor » Thu Oct 07, 2010 8:42 pm

Dan,

I am doing the later class of U class. They are a bit more refined...

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Re: HMS Thames

Postby Sub culture » Fri Oct 08, 2010 6:22 am

1/32nd U-class GRP hull is available (or at least was). Brian Alps made one from wood a number of years back (ten or so). Well it suffered from water ingress after a couple of seasons, so it was decommissioned and the hull was used as a master for a GRP boat. You can see the original wooden wonder in a video I shot back in 2000, the U-class appears at 1:15, although with it's top off



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Re: HMS Thames

Postby greenman407 » Fri Oct 08, 2010 7:34 am

Wlambing, Thank you for your reply to my post. However if you will read carefully my words were "it seems to be" denoting that I was not quite sure. Therefore I would appreciate it if you would lose the attitude and try to be more helpful rather than trying to find fault. This is a hobby.......not a full time profession......therefore Ill be the first to admit it when it is brought to my attention that a mistake has been made. Thats what life is all about, you make mistakes, learn from them and move on. :(
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Re: HMS Thames

Postby wlambing » Fri Oct 08, 2010 8:33 am

Greeman407,

Attitude? Appears to be your problem now. You stated something, got some feedback, now it's time to "move on". You are correct, it IS a hobby!

Have a lovely day!

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Re: HMS Thames

Postby greenman407 » Fri Oct 08, 2010 8:36 am

Wow! Im glad thats over. :D
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Re: HMS Thames

Postby greenman407 » Fri Oct 08, 2010 9:36 am

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Image As good as my word. Researching HMS Parthion as "Wlambing" suggested did indeed turn up some useful pictures. It would appear that he is correct and I repent in sackcloth and ashes. Its obvious that many out there are genuine experts on the subject but we dont hear from them very often. Feedback is good. :shock:
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