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Postby raalst » Sun Dec 14, 2003 5:30 pm

Have a look at the deck gun (unfortunately, in an edit the
URL goes at the end..)
I feel it can be improved upon. However, I want to be sure..

I remember a picture of a beautiful brass VIIc deck gun,
but I cannot recall/refind the URL. anybody ?

does anybody have detail photos of the deck gun for me ?
(I do have
vom Original zum Modell : Uboottyp VII C
Deutsche Uboote bis 1945 (D. Miller) and
Type VII Uboats (R.C. Stern)
)

The new revell model seems inaccurate.
- the harnesses to keep the gun personnel from
taking a swim look very different on pictures as in the kit.
- also, these harnesses were folded back toward the gun
if not in use. The revell ones are folded out, suggesting
the gun had just been used. But the aiming apparatus
is missing (this was attached to the gun when needed
and normally kept inside).
- In the photos there is also a large circular thing just
above the barrel. Possibly another aiming thingy. on the
kit it is missing (or not present if this was also detached
when not in use. anybody know ?).

I would like some detail about the mount. should there be
circular disk on the mount facing forward? The kit's
instructions and the u-99 kit have it on there, but not
this kit.
Also, what did the sides of the breech block (? i mean
back end of the gun) look like ?

Thanks in advance,
Ronald

Revell VIIc deck gun




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Postby graftonw » Wed Dec 17, 2003 12:12 pm

The brass gun you remember (if it was from the SCR) may be the Gato 5" gun done by Ron Perrot (see picture in gallery pages).

Some additional 88mm gun pictures can be found in:
"U-Boats in the Atlantic" (P. Beaver)
"U-Boats under the Swastika" (Jak P. Mallmann Showell)
"Type VII U-Boat" (Westwood) (basic drawn schematics)

Unfortunately, I don't have a digital camera (maybe after Christmas?). If I get access to one, I can email some pictures at a later date should you still need some additional photos.

I'm a novice builder but...the "ring" you mention on the mount below the gun barrel might be the receptacle for holding the muzzle cover/tampon when the gun is in use.

Andrea Miniatures released a very detailed 1/32 scale 88mm deck gun kit which seems pretty good. I'm building this kit for placement on the deck of an OTW type VII. They also supply a reasonable conning tower kit as well. Prices are a bit high. Search their site for "submarine" to get an idea of the items they offer. Some of the item's pictures are worth viewing for details.


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Postby raalst » Wed Dec 17, 2003 3:28 pm

Thanks for the info's

would the Andrea kit be the same as the kit offered by
Accurate Armour ?

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Ronald
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Postby graftonw » Wed Dec 17, 2003 4:04 pm

Not at all. The Accurate Armour is in 1/35 scale. The Andrea kit is 1/32 and comes with more detailed castings and more metal components. The Accurate Armour kit was supplied with the OTW Type VII kit so I had both to examine.

Go to www.andrea-miniatures.com and check out 1/32 kits:
S5-S09 Type VII Conning Tower
S5-S10 88mm Deck Gun
LP-02 Type VII Submarine (limited production kit)

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Postby raalst » Thu Dec 18, 2003 4:03 pm

thanks,

those pictures show a lot of detail !
great help.

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